C. Neal Pope describes himself as "the daddy" of Pope, McGlamry, Kilpatrick, Morrison & Norwood.
He's 73. He's practiced law for 46 years. And he's the father of four grown children. Three are now lawyers, one's a doctor. He's the mentor to many local lawyers, including the one who is now mayor, Teresa Tomlinson.
His career advice is valued. But it's not what people might expect.
Pope laughs at an often-quoted answer he once gave a woman who told him her son was considering law school and needed a summer job.
"Tell him to get a job selling vacuum cleaners door to door," Pope answered.
That was one bit of advice that was not taken.
But that's exactly what Pope did as he was working his way through school. He also sold Fuller brushes. And he served a stint as an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps.
But it's the door-to-door sales that he found most helpful in preparation for becoming a trial lawyer.
"If you can convince someone to let you inside their home and sell them a vacuum cleaner or a brush, you can sell your story to a jury," Pope says.